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		<title>By: G. Ira Wallace</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-4113</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Ira Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to day I attended all of the Klemmer workshops, and it did change my life, for the better.  It did open my eyes.  Is it too expensive ... I think so.  With that said, do I regret attending?  Absolutely not.  I still am a witness to both Jesus Christ and Klemmer!  They have both changed my life for the better, and with God&#039;s strength, I will make a difference on this world before my departure.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to day I attended all of the Klemmer workshops, and it did change my life, for the better.  It did open my eyes.  Is it too expensive &#8230; I think so.  With that said, do I regret attending?  Absolutely not.  I still am a witness to both Jesus Christ and Klemmer!  They have both changed my life for the better, and with God&#8217;s strength, I will make a difference on this world before my departure. </p>
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		<title>By: burned</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3797</link>
		<dc:creator>burned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see how you banned me Dave.  Funny how you censor your blog to have only what you want to be posted on it.  How about letting people share the truth about how messed up Klemmer is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see how you banned me Dave.  Funny how you censor your blog to have only what you want to be posted on it.  How about letting people share the truth about how messed up Klemmer is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricobebad</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricobebad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m back,
Just learned from mom and dad that Steve is still getting paid from Brian Klemmer.
If you value your hard earned dollars steer clear of these thievs and con artists. They are in it for nothing but your money. Klemmer fired him but is till influenced by him. Remeber that the only thing they want is your money and you will be safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m back,<br />
Just learned from mom and dad that Steve is still getting paid from Brian Klemmer.<br />
If you value your hard earned dollars steer clear of these thievs and con artists. They are in it for nothing but your money. Klemmer fired him but is till influenced by him. Remeber that the only thing they want is your money and you will be safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3477</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not afraid of anything except Klemmer&#039;s  ownership of the Petaluma PD and as stupid as the police are, they get lucky every now and again. Why don&#039;t you get a grip? Stop paying these guys for the honor of selling their snake oil for them. Try to get your mind open and do some real research on them instead of just repeating their paid gushers propaganda. If you are so much better now than before Klemmer&#039;s  LGATs that you have attended then what do you have to fear by looking at the other side of the coin? Why not provide for another perspective?
   It makes no difference what I think extortion means only what the charges filed against me by my brother (#2 over there at snake oil central) were and that was the charge.  Of course the DA didn&#039;t pursue it but that is irrelevant. The cops were complicit and the report was filed with the DA. The actual act that generated the charges was me telling my brother to stay the hell away from my kids or that I would expose him and K and A.  A task which I have jumped on with all my heart.  I remain anonymous because I have a young family and I don&#039;t need the aggravation of the money and tactics my brother and K an A will spend to keep me quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not afraid of anything except Klemmer&#8217;s  ownership of the Petaluma PD and as stupid as the police are, they get lucky every now and again. Why don&#8217;t you get a grip? Stop paying these guys for the honor of selling their snake oil for them. Try to get your mind open and do some real research on them instead of just repeating their paid gushers propaganda. If you are so much better now than before Klemmer&#8217;s  LGATs that you have attended then what do you have to fear by looking at the other side of the coin? Why not provide for another perspective?<br />
   It makes no difference what I think extortion means only what the charges filed against me by my brother (#2 over there at snake oil central) were and that was the charge.  Of course the DA didn&#8217;t pursue it but that is irrelevant. The cops were complicit and the report was filed with the DA. The actual act that generated the charges was me telling my brother to stay the hell away from my kids or that I would expose him and K and A.  A task which I have jumped on with all my heart.  I remain anonymous because I have a young family and I don&#8217;t need the aggravation of the money and tactics my brother and K an A will spend to keep me quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3475</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not come out and say which things are verifiable and incorrect instead of just throwing out false accusations? Also what other unrelated posts? I haven&#039;t done any such thing, that is just you trying to defend all the money you spent on that $18 sword.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not come out and say which things are verifiable and incorrect instead of just throwing out false accusations? Also what other unrelated posts? I haven&#8217;t done any such thing, that is just you trying to defend all the money you spent on that $18 sword.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Saunders</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3435</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL I now see why you won&#039;t use a real name with your posts. I can see at least two blatant and verifiably false statements about goings on at Klemmer and Associates in your comment left at the sfpost article. You might want to look up the word extortion too because I&#039;m not sure you know what that means either.

Meanwhile, I noticed you started posting your rants on unrelated posts on this site. That&#039;s spam. I have been very accommodating toward you thus far so you may want to reconsider this approach.

Take care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL I now see why you won&#8217;t use a real name with your posts. I can see at least two blatant and verifiably false statements about goings on at Klemmer and Associates in your comment left at the sfpost article. You might want to look up the word extortion too because I&#8217;m not sure you know what that means either.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I noticed you started posting your rants on unrelated posts on this site. That&#8217;s spam. I have been very accommodating toward you thus far so you may want to reconsider this approach.</p>
<p>Take care</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3434</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/comments/view?f=/c/a/2008/08/20/NSP51297VQ.DTL</description>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3382</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I didn&#039;t ask you to see what Rick Ross wrote. I asked you to search Klemmer and Associates on the Rick Ross website to see what other people have experienced, according to you, you didn&#039;t do that. And I don&#039;t think that you read what Rick Ross said either. Actually I think that it is too late for you and you are officially Klemmerized and refuse to have an open mind. Hence the &quot;Life in the river&quot; statement. The river of course being De-NILE. Good luck in you pursuit of more swords to add to your collection. 
It just so happens that I have a unique sword for sale. It belonged to a nigerian prince circa 1232. If you are interested EM me and I&#039;ll sponsor you to get it. No classes are involved however;  I just so happen to have some personal betterment classes for sale for $80,000 but for you they are half off. While I am at it I have a bridge just outside of San Francisco for sale. People will pay to cross it. It&#039;s kind of GOLD in color. Call me for the details. I also have a tonic that can help your rhuematiz. While we are having this &quot;lively discussion&quot; perhaps you will advertise my new company: De-Klemmerization techniques for Dummies on your website for free like you are doing for them. By the way how does my brother&#039;s dictate?
Rico</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I didn&#8217;t ask you to see what Rick Ross wrote. I asked you to search Klemmer and Associates on the Rick Ross website to see what other people have experienced, according to you, you didn&#8217;t do that. And I don&#8217;t think that you read what Rick Ross said either. Actually I think that it is too late for you and you are officially Klemmerized and refuse to have an open mind. Hence the &#8220;Life in the river&#8221; statement. The river of course being De-NILE. Good luck in you pursuit of more swords to add to your collection.<br />
It just so happens that I have a unique sword for sale. It belonged to a nigerian prince circa 1232. If you are interested EM me and I&#8217;ll sponsor you to get it. No classes are involved however;  I just so happen to have some personal betterment classes for sale for $80,000 but for you they are half off. While I am at it I have a bridge just outside of San Francisco for sale. People will pay to cross it. It&#8217;s kind of GOLD in color. Call me for the details. I also have a tonic that can help your rhuematiz. While we are having this &#8220;lively discussion&#8221; perhaps you will advertise my new company: De-Klemmerization techniques for Dummies on your website for free like you are doing for them. By the way how does my brother&#8217;s dictate?<br />
Rico</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life in the river. Bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life in the river. Bye</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Saunders</title>
		<link>http://davesaunders.net/2007/09/klemmer-and-associates-advanced-leadership-training/comment-page-1/#comment-3370</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still no tither around here. Just enjoying a lively conversation while sitting out on the deck with my laptop. It&#039;s a beautiful day outside.

Never said a C&amp;D letter would make me take down anything. That would be the legal process for them to make the demand that I take down a post. That&#039;s just the tool that would be used. I also said that I would post a scan of that letter if I received it which is obviously not a sign of capitulation. 

I read a lot of Rick&#039;s stuff before I went to the first of the workshops. Most of it is printed and bound because I prefer to read from paper. I&#039;ve also read peer-reviewed papers published in psychology journals which do not agree with him. As I said though, this sort of thing isn&#039;t for everyone. I shared an opinion that I had a good time there. Sorry if that&#039;s threatening to you. Right now the only line I seem to be pressured to get into is yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no tither around here. Just enjoying a lively conversation while sitting out on the deck with my laptop. It&#8217;s a beautiful day outside.</p>
<p>Never said a C&amp;D letter would make me take down anything. That would be the legal process for them to make the demand that I take down a post. That&#8217;s just the tool that would be used. I also said that I would post a scan of that letter if I received it which is obviously not a sign of capitulation. </p>
<p>I read a lot of Rick&#8217;s stuff before I went to the first of the workshops. Most of it is printed and bound because I prefer to read from paper. I&#8217;ve also read peer-reviewed papers published in psychology journals which do not agree with him. As I said though, this sort of thing isn&#8217;t for everyone. I shared an opinion that I had a good time there. Sorry if that&#8217;s threatening to you. Right now the only line I seem to be pressured to get into is yours.</p>
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